The game isn't meant to be too grindy, so it shouldn't be necessary to grind mushrooms in advance. But I guess the standing limit of 10 was set a bit low.
There's a bug that requires an update anyway, I'll raise the limit to 20 while at it. Edit: done.
The update is bigger and was more work than the number and length of new scenes alone suggest, but I understand that it feels pretty small if you go only by new events. Fwiw, 0.3 is bigger than 0.2 in terms of new events, and 0.4 is planned to be bigger than 0.3, and those updates will be on a 3-week cadence.
Hey I just want to know, is version 0.2 still not published to the public? Because it is said that after the latest update for patron it will be announced that after 2 weeks it will be published. CMIIW
Looking at the fetish /kink section. I know it says no other male characters but what about a cute femboy to bully? Or maybe Futa? Not making demands, actually just asking.
That's perfectly fine since IRL takes priority, but please make an official announcement for stuff like that to keep people informed. Kind of a pain to have to check comments for that instead of just getting the info in my feed. No need for a long explanation of why it's delayed, but just a simple few lines stating that there is a delay but that the project isn't dead. Communicating with your community is key to keeping said community engaged.
Gotta fight the current trend of indie devs not being communicative and just vanishing for months. It hurts the entire scene.
I see where you're coming from, but I've mentioned before (not just in comments) that update 0.2 would be more of a "when it's done" update anyway, since it'll be fairly big, so it was always going to be at least 2, more likely 3 months even in a best-case scenario.
HHR has fairly many characters right off the bat, and I want to avoid the situation of Corrupted Kindoms' Act 3 in its early days, where it took several updates before it was really playable and had any content worth mentioning.
It would be a different story if the game was already on a regular release cadence, but... in this case, an announcement would've amounted to "instead of I don't know when, it's now I don't know when +1 month or so".
I guess one could argue I should've done more pre-production, better planning, released 0.1 later etc., but hindsight is 20/20.
Also, I'm an introvert, I only communicate when I feel I have to and prefer to focus on the actual game development. You won't see me fix that trend, I'm afraid ^^'
That being said, starting with 0.3 the plan is to have an update at least every 5-6 weeks, and any delays to that would be announced, yes.
Fair points. It's just that it's quite easy to forget which game dev mentioned he is gonna need 2-3 months for an update and which didn't, especially when you follow a lot of games. I don't have a problem with waiting 3 months for an update if the quality is worth it. As I said I really just wanna know that the development is still in progress so there is a point in waiting (and potentially supporting a project finacially).
I fully agree on the part about avoiding a situation where there is too little content to fill an update. Many sandbox games do that and it's honestly a massive pain, especially if there is a weekday mechanic. Ended up in situations way too often where I had to spamclick through almost a full week just to get to the next event.
Instead of "I don't know when + 1 month", I was really just thinking a short one or two sentence post saying "Still no ETA, but I'm (still) working on things." And maybe add something like "x words/renders/scenes/whatever have been added/made/created so far" or "here, have a random new pic that shows I'm working on stuff yet doesn't really spoiler anything".
Oh, didn't intend to critisize your pre-production, planning or whatever. Any kind of creative work is hard to plan out far in advance. I was really just aiming my complaint at the lack of regular communication. Which brings me to your point about being an introvert. Nothing wrong with that, I'm honestly quite similar. The only reason I even brought this up to begin with is that many indie devs are currently being far too uncommunicative and just leave their communities hanging without regular updates (not playable updates, but really just dev logs or any kind of sign of life). At this point this trend is getting so annoying that I felt I had to speak up about it and you were really just unfortunate to be one of the first devs I brought this up with. It's just a massive pain if you are following dozens of projects like I do and for more and more of them you don't know if they are just held up by IRL stuff and/or a particularly big update or if they abandoned their project without a word, simply because the devs don't give regular short progress updates/reports.
cant wait to start having free roam fully and not be stuck on something saying this is the end of update please make a save then exit. i really look foward to seeing what this becomes
the potential is very promising, the designs and personalities are a delight and thank you for putting iris in the game and I hope your project progresses, is really good
Just downloaded, but wanted to say that if this is anywhere near as good and enjoyable as Total Maidness then how ever long you take is well worth the wait.
Thank you so much for putting this out. I'm super interested in where it will go. Also when I saw Iris I was ecstatic to see my adorable best girl back in this game.
Will take a while, at least another month. Next update will add sandbox and we want it to have enough content from the start, so it'll be nearly as much work as the first release, which took nearly 2 months to make (not counting character designs and over-arcing plot, which I've been working on for over a year).
Your last game got NTR in the final update. This time you have HAREM in the damn title, and a statement declaring "NO NTR", so can you be trusted this time or you going to bait & switch again?
Also, reusing characters in different games is incredibly lazy.
> Your last game got NTR in the final update. That's not true. I still think that some optional memories from a time long before they even met the MC aren't NTR. NTR would be actual cheating on someone. You can complain that some of the maids weren't exactly pure, but that's about it. Also, the Carnal Crystal was added to TM nearly a year ago, including several of the scenes in question (and most dreams were added in 2022), so neither the "NTR" nor the "got it in the final update" are correct. But I digress.
> This time you have HAREM in the damn title, and a statement declaring "NO NTR", so can you be trusted this time or you going to bait & switch again? It was never meant to be "bait and switch", and more an issue of me not fully understanding at the time I added the dreams and Carnal Crystal what people expect when they see "harem" (and underestimating how intolerant some people are towards optional content). But yes, I've put it like that for a reason. There'll be some (but not much) avoidable lesbian content in HHR, but you're the only male character in that world just like the description states, and no dreams or memories this time, either. HHR was always meant to be a purer harem experience, but on top of that by now I'm genuinely fed up of people bringing up the topic all the time, so I'd never make anything like the CC or dreams from TM ever again anyway.
> Also, reusing characters in different games is incredibly lazy. If you feel that way, I guess there's nothing I can do about it. Personally, I like characters re-appearing in other games. In any case, this has been decided since October 2022 and a good chunk of the story revolves around one of them, plus quite a few TM players are actually excited to see them again. This was a conscious choice for story reasons, not some "oh great, I can save work that way". You'll also be able to ignore some of them to a degree.
Besides, if we include side characters, the final game will likely exceed 50 girls, so I don't think 3 or 4 of them being similar-but-not-identical reappearances isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things.
Reusing characters? That would be a fair point but we're not just using the same characters 1:1 they have visual upgrades, the very setting they are in is different, not to mention that was this just a spinoff ot a "TM 2" people wouldnt bat an eye, so letting creativity flow and doing new and unique is just a win in my books.
funny and weird glitch happens in the main menu. When you boot up the game for the first time and you go to your settings to change it if you hit start while being in this menu still it will crash the game.
We already found the cause, but since the issue is easy to avoid, we'll wait a little more to see if any other bugs are reported before we release an update.
This is pretty nice and i quite like it already, but i have one major nitpick:
I am talking about Kate & Iris (from TM), they have basically the same personalities here. For new players, this is gonna be cool, but for returning ones - not so much. It's a bit better for Kate, but Iris is basically a "what if Iris but vampire", with her personality & appearance almost unchanged (at least atm).
What's not so ideal about this: Even if you love and cherish those characters, or just mostly like the models and want to share/lessen the workload (idk the reasons, do forgive me if i am wrong), they still feel kinda... recycled? maybe even stale?
Basically, folks who came here for the new story, world and chars, they will get a new background (so to speak) but with the old faces all around, and that can get fairly boring and stale - esp without any meaningful (and distinct from TM) chara dev - and that's p bad for any story out there.
But since that's your decision to make (and a core one at that) i won't suggest changing the models/personalities, basically replacing those two chars, it absolutely won't hurt making em different enough, though:
Giving them some different sides, depth which TM ones were kinda lacking, some cool backstory & role in the plot, or maybe even make em evolve into a different person, which should be doable, given enough time and plot beats, for example.
All those things can either alleviate this problem or even solve it for the most part, which would be p cool since quite frankly those two as they are right now are quite distracting here - they were absolutely fine in TM, ofc.
And truth being told, i quite liked TM for what it was - and i hope this one goes above and beyond it! - so good luck to ya OCN, congrats on releasing and beginning a new story, and don't ever give up~ all my criticism comes from the place of love & a wish to help this story be as good as possible, which it deserves since it got quite some potential, imo.
Anyway, hope that helps and won't discourage you from writing and creating something you enjoy and love doing, which is a p cool thing if you think about it.
> Giving them some different sides, depth which TM ones were kinda > lacking, some cool backstory & role in the plot, or maybe even make > em evolve into a different person
I can't comment too much without spoilers, let's just say: I agree that rehashing characters without good reason would be boring.
Let's just say I did put some more thought into this than currently meets the eye. I don't know if everyone will be happy with the result by the end of the VN, but... I'm fairly confident in what I have in store, development- and story-wise :-)
I weren't sure what's your plans for those chars since it's indeed too early to tell, but i thought it prudent to chime in early on with some feedback so you could - at the worst case - change things for the better, hopefully, while it's still not too far ahead in the plot dept.
Anyways, your confidence is quite reassuring indeed, so for now i am gonna trust ya on that and enjoy the story as it goes ~
Hmm... without a picture of the renpy error message (if there is any), it'll be hard to debug, sorry.
But we plan to migrate to a newer renpy engine version with next update, maybe that'll already solve the issue. But if you're getting some kind of error message when it crashes, it would help us a lot if you could post it.
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Is it possible to bring a meal to Medea in the 0.2.1 update? If so, how? I'm probably just missing something, but I can t figure out how to do it.
Not yet, but the first option for that is coming in 0.3.
Got it. Thank you!
Dang 1 day ago 🔥🔥🔥
Is anal sex already implemented or not ?
Not yet, and it may take a while and won't play much of a role in this game.
Maybe a handful of sandbox options at some point.
Ok thanks for replying. I still hope you will add more than a handful ;]
Does your other games have some anal scenes ?
You really want anal 🤣
Yes bro that's my kink i'm craving for some buttfun in H games
Day 5 maxed hotel points 10 so now I guess grind mushrooms till next tiny update? No point giving them to anybody
The game isn't meant to be too grindy, so it shouldn't be necessary to grind mushrooms in advance. But I guess the standing limit of 10 was set a bit low.
There's a bug that requires an update anyway, I'll raise the limit to 20 while at it.
Edit: done.
The update is bigger and was more work than the number and length of new scenes alone suggest, but I understand that it feels pretty small if you go only by new events.
Fwiw, 0.3 is bigger than 0.2 in terms of new events, and 0.4 is planned to be bigger than 0.3, and those updates will be on a 3-week cadence.
That 0.2 took so long had different reasons.
I will check it out, thanks for replying quickly.
Hey I just want to know, is version 0.2 still not published to the public? Because it is said that after the latest update for patron it will be announced that after 2 weeks it will be published. CMIIW
Edit: OK, I just saw the comment where I said it would arrive 2 weeks later... not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that...
But 0.2 will become public when 0.3 arrives for patrons, and that'll happen by middle of next week.
Umm you said it in the comments a few days ago but anyway thanks for the info I will wait for the next update. Keep up the good work!
About to try it out, hyped
this game have Chinese?
How is the progress?
The progress has been good over the last couple of days, but I'm not there yet.
I have an internal target of the the 9th (early next week) for the patron early access.
Public update would be about 2 weeks later.
That's good to hear, I'm happy to wait the time, keep up the good work
To your log its ok take your time
Looking at the fetish /kink section. I know it says no other male characters but what about a cute femboy to bully? Or maybe Futa? Not making demands, actually just asking.
Not happening, sorry.
Target audiences and personally not being comfortable with it aside, it would cause some complications for the story, too.
Do you have an official release date for the update? Or do I need to let you surprise me at end of may?
I liked what I saw! I hope you continue the game!!
Thanks, and I will, don't worry :)
How goes progress?
What may is release date?
Probably closer to end of May.
But I'm working on getting it done as fast as possible.
Sorry for the delays.
Any news?
Sorry, still wrestling with some challenges.
Still hope to have it ready sometime in May (for patrons in any case, public soon after).
Ok
it says end of version 0.1 create save. this is all there is right now? not in a mean way btw just asking. didn't know if it was bugged or no
Yes that's it for now, they are planning on a huge update and for now we still need to wait
understood. thanks
Any news to an release date?
Not yet, sorry.
But I'll post a progress report and some sneak peeks soonish.
Ok, that's good to know
Big update for next version?
That's the plan, yes.
Whether people will find it big enough for the wait remains to be seen, but we'll do what we can.
Can you give an approximate release date
Not yet, sorry. There were some IRL issues I had to deal with first, so the work got held up, unfortunately.
That's perfectly fine since IRL takes priority, but please make an official announcement for stuff like that to keep people informed. Kind of a pain to have to check comments for that instead of just getting the info in my feed. No need for a long explanation of why it's delayed, but just a simple few lines stating that there is a delay but that the project isn't dead. Communicating with your community is key to keeping said community engaged.
Gotta fight the current trend of indie devs not being communicative and just vanishing for months. It hurts the entire scene.
I see where you're coming from, but I've mentioned before (not just in comments) that update 0.2 would be more of a "when it's done" update anyway, since it'll be fairly big, so it was always going to be at least 2, more likely 3 months even in a best-case scenario.
HHR has fairly many characters right off the bat, and I want to avoid the situation of Corrupted Kindoms' Act 3 in its early days, where it took several updates before it was really playable and had any content worth mentioning.
It would be a different story if the game was already on a regular release cadence, but...
in this case, an announcement would've amounted to "instead of I don't know when, it's now I don't know when +1 month or so".
I guess one could argue I should've done more pre-production, better planning, released 0.1 later etc., but hindsight is 20/20.
Also, I'm an introvert, I only communicate when I feel I have to and prefer to focus on the actual game development.
You won't see me fix that trend, I'm afraid ^^'
That being said, starting with 0.3 the plan is to have an update at least every 5-6 weeks, and any delays to that would be announced, yes.
Fair points. It's just that it's quite easy to forget which game dev mentioned he is gonna need 2-3 months for an update and which didn't, especially when you follow a lot of games. I don't have a problem with waiting 3 months for an update if the quality is worth it. As I said I really just wanna know that the development is still in progress so there is a point in waiting (and potentially supporting a project finacially).
I fully agree on the part about avoiding a situation where there is too little content to fill an update. Many sandbox games do that and it's honestly a massive pain, especially if there is a weekday mechanic. Ended up in situations way too often where I had to spamclick through almost a full week just to get to the next event.
Instead of "I don't know when + 1 month", I was really just thinking a short one or two sentence post saying "Still no ETA, but I'm (still) working on things." And maybe add something like "x words/renders/scenes/whatever have been added/made/created so far" or "here, have a random new pic that shows I'm working on stuff yet doesn't really spoiler anything".
Oh, didn't intend to critisize your pre-production, planning or whatever. Any kind of creative work is hard to plan out far in advance. I was really just aiming my complaint at the lack of regular communication. Which brings me to your point about being an introvert. Nothing wrong with that, I'm honestly quite similar. The only reason I even brought this up to begin with is that many indie devs are currently being far too uncommunicative and just leave their communities hanging without regular updates (not playable updates, but really just dev logs or any kind of sign of life). At this point this trend is getting so annoying that I felt I had to speak up about it and you were really just unfortunate to be one of the first devs I brought this up with. It's just a massive pain if you are following dozens of projects like I do and for more and more of them you don't know if they are just held up by IRL stuff and/or a particularly big update or if they abandoned their project without a word, simply because the devs don't give regular short progress updates/reports.
Hello do you know when the next update shall be ?
Not yet, sorry.
Version 0.2 is taking a bit longer, in part because of IRL reasons, in part because it's going to be a pretty big update.
We plan to have a more regular release schedule starting with update 0.3.
Nice 🔥🔥🔥
I wouldnt think so considering total maidness
How do i gollow a game or creator on here... lol needs them updates
cant wait to start having free roam fully and not be stuck on something saying this is the end of update please make a save then exit. i really look foward to seeing what this becomes
the potential is very promising, the designs and personalities are a delight and thank you for putting iris in the game and I hope your project progresses, is really good
Is Kate in this game?
Kate Best girl
Someone virtually the same, so essentially yes :)
Una pregunta está en español??
Just downloaded, but wanted to say that if this is anywhere near as good and enjoyable as Total Maidness then how ever long you take is well worth the wait.
This game is new
?
Yes :)
I've added an FAQ here that should answer some of the most common questions and will be updated from time to time.
Thank you so much for putting this out. I'm super interested in where it will go. Also when I saw Iris I was ecstatic to see my adorable best girl back in this game.
Keep up the good work and thank you again.
Good start. Looking forward to the next update.
One minor thing: Part of the dialogue with Emilia mentioned not yet meeting Kait but it is possible to meet Kait before Emilia.
Thanks!
And good catch, will be fixed in next update.
Hol up, let the Dev cook gang, BE PATIENT!!!!
When we can see new update
Will take a while, at least another month.
Next update will add sandbox and we want it to have enough content from the start, so it'll be nearly as much work as the first release, which took nearly 2 months to make (not counting character designs and over-arcing plot, which I've been working on for over a year).
Your last game got NTR in the final update. This time you have HAREM in the damn title, and a statement declaring "NO NTR", so can you be trusted this time or you going to bait & switch again?
Also, reusing characters in different games is incredibly lazy.
Refresh my memory. Where was the NTR?
Are you talking about the dreams/memories in TM?
That is not NTR.
> Your last game got NTR in the final update.
That's not true.
I still think that some optional memories from a time long before they even met the MC aren't NTR. NTR would be actual cheating on someone.
You can complain that some of the maids weren't exactly pure, but that's about it.
Also, the Carnal Crystal was added to TM nearly a year ago, including several of the scenes in question (and most dreams were added in 2022), so neither the "NTR" nor the "got it in the final update" are correct.
But I digress.
> This time you have HAREM in the damn title, and a statement declaring "NO NTR", so can you be trusted this time or you going to bait & switch again?
It was never meant to be "bait and switch", and more an issue of me not fully understanding at the time I added the dreams and Carnal Crystal what people expect when they see "harem" (and underestimating how intolerant some people are towards optional content).
But yes, I've put it like that for a reason.
There'll be some (but not much) avoidable lesbian content in HHR, but you're the only male character in that world just like the description states, and no dreams or memories this time, either.
HHR was always meant to be a purer harem experience, but on top of that by now I'm genuinely fed up of people bringing up the topic all the time, so I'd never make anything like the CC or dreams from TM ever again anyway.
> Also, reusing characters in different games is incredibly lazy.
If you feel that way, I guess there's nothing I can do about it.
Personally, I like characters re-appearing in other games.
In any case, this has been decided since October 2022 and a good chunk of the story revolves around one of them, plus quite a few TM players are actually excited to see them again. This was a conscious choice for story reasons, not some "oh great, I can save work that way".
You'll also be able to ignore some of them to a degree.
Besides, if we include side characters, the final game will likely exceed 50 girls, so I don't think 3 or 4 of them being similar-but-not-identical reappearances isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things.
It's crazy how critical people can be sometimes. It's a free game for ffs. Just know most of us absolutely love your work OnionCuttingNinja!
Wow. Simp. Harder. Loser.
Pot calling the kettle black XD
Why Did you reply to a hentai thread my little pogchamp? Got tired of winning at life?
Reusing characters? That would be a fair point but we're not just using the same characters 1:1 they have visual upgrades, the very setting they are in is different, not to mention that was this just a spinoff ot a "TM 2" people wouldnt bat an eye, so letting creativity flow and doing new and unique is just a win in my books.
funny and weird glitch happens in the main menu. When you boot up the game for the first time and you go to your settings to change it if you hit start while being in this menu still it will crash the game.
Thanks for reporting!
We already found the cause, but since the issue is easy to avoid, we'll wait a little more to see if any other bugs are reported before we release an update.
Uploaded version 0.1.1, should be fixed now.
Sorry for the late response but many thanks for fixing it
It's fine now, but I can't start the game from the save file. Otherwise, the game is great. I look forward to updates, especially Emilia's part.
oh yeah new game les goooo
This is pretty nice and i quite like it already, but i have one major nitpick:
I am talking about Kate & Iris (from TM), they have basically the same personalities here. For new players, this is gonna be cool, but for returning ones - not so much. It's a bit better for Kate, but Iris is basically a "what if Iris but vampire", with her personality & appearance almost unchanged (at least atm).
What's not so ideal about this:
Even if you love and cherish those characters, or just mostly like the models and want to share/lessen the workload (idk the reasons, do forgive me if i am wrong), they still feel kinda... recycled? maybe even stale?
Basically, folks who came here for the new story, world and chars, they will get a new background (so to speak) but with the old faces all around, and that can get fairly boring and stale - esp without any meaningful (and distinct from TM) chara dev - and that's p bad for any story out there.
But since that's your decision to make (and a core one at that) i won't suggest changing the models/personalities, basically replacing those two chars, it absolutely won't hurt making em different enough, though:
Giving them some different sides, depth which TM ones were kinda lacking, some cool backstory & role in the plot, or maybe even make em evolve into a different person, which should be doable, given enough time and plot beats, for example.
All those things can either alleviate this problem or even solve it for the most part, which would be p cool since quite frankly those two as they are right now are quite distracting here - they were absolutely fine in TM, ofc.
And truth being told, i quite liked TM for what it was - and i hope this one goes above and beyond it! - so good luck to ya OCN, congrats on releasing and beginning a new story, and don't ever give up~ all my criticism comes from the place of love & a wish to help this story be as good as possible, which it deserves since it got quite some potential, imo.
Anyway, hope that helps and won't discourage you from writing and creating something you enjoy and love doing, which is a p cool thing if you think about it.
Hey, thanks for the feedback!
> Giving them some different sides, depth which TM ones were kinda
> lacking, some cool backstory & role in the plot, or maybe even make
> em evolve into a different person
I can't comment too much without spoilers, let's just say: I agree that rehashing characters without good reason would be boring.
Let's just say I did put some more thought into this than currently meets the eye.
I don't know if everyone will be happy with the result by the end of the VN, but... I'm fairly confident in what I have in store, development- and story-wise :-)
Very cool, thank you!
I weren't sure what's your plans for those chars since it's indeed too early to tell, but i thought it prudent to chime in early on with some feedback so you could - at the worst case - change things for the better, hopefully, while it's still not too far ahead in the plot dept.
Anyways, your confidence is quite reassuring indeed, so for now i am gonna trust ya on that and enjoy the story as it goes ~
Android keeps crashing and can't play games
Hmm... without a picture of the renpy error message (if there is any), it'll be hard to debug, sorry.
But we plan to migrate to a newer renpy engine version with next update, maybe that'll already solve the issue.
But if you're getting some kind of error message when it crashes, it would help us a lot if you could post it.